Edgebrook/Sauganash/Gladstone Park Market Conditions – Second Quarter 2009

The latest S&P/Case-Shiller home price indices were released last week (pdf-file), and the findings for Chicago were as follows: a 1.1% home price increase from April 09 to May 09 and a 17.5% price decline when comparing May 09 to May 08. Needless to say that Case-Shiller’s findings seldom match up with what we find home values to be in zip code 60646, and that’s not only because Case-Shiller don’t track home values on a quarterly basis. Judging by the blogosphere’s commentary, the latest Case-Shiller figures seem to be the strongest in nearly three years, however, in large metropolitan areas such as in Chicago, where we might be interested in specific neighborhood stats, Case-Shiller figures aren’t really helpful.

Edgebrook Real Estate Market Conditions Q2 2009

Sauganash Real Estate Market Conditions Q2 2009

South Edgebrook/Gladstone Park Real Estate Market Conditions Q2 2009


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  1. JB says:

    Are there any specific home sales that are skewing the 2nd Q percentage of asking price stats? I want to say there was one home, perhaps on a main drag somewhere, that went for 50k less than asking price. With a low number of sales, one seller’s new grip on reality could affect the numbers greatly. The inventory numbers are great news, but look like they might be creeping up again in the past month.

    • In Edgebrook, the “renegade” was probably 6919 Caldwell with a LP/SP difference of $165K. Then there were 6643 Hiawatha and 6585 Tahoma with a $75K diff, 7037 Mendota ($74K diff), 6937 Chicora ($65K diff), and 6624 Loleta ($67.1K diff). The lowest LP/SP difference in Edgebrook was for 5466 W Lunt at $17.9K. Everyone else sold at least $23K below asking price. So, to answer your question, in Edgebrook, all home sales were pretty much collectively responsible for the 10% diff between average LP and average SP in Q2 2009.

      In Sauganash, there were three sales out of the twelve that may have skewed the figures a bit: 6100 Keating with a $52.5K diff, 6312 Karlov ($99.9K diff), and 5735 Kostner ($150K diff). The latter one at Kostner was the one where we represented the buyers. Both, Kostner and Karlov had been on the market for almost 2 years, hence, the respective sellers’ decisions to sell at a big discount was understandable. But again, overall in Q2 2009, in Sauganash most home sales contributed to the almost 8% gap between avg. LP and avg. SP.

      Inventory figures in Edgebrook have actually not been too bad at 10.7 MSI (Months supply of inventory) vs. at the end of Q1 when they were at 31.8 MSI. Quarter-over-quarter, Sauganash had a slight improvement in inventory levels as well at 15 MSI vs. 18.7 MSI. We might see a “mini surge” of inventories at the end of Q3 this year which is all the inventory that was unsold over the summer, and will then be taken off the market to return probably in the spring of 2010.

  2. JB says:

    Yeah, sorry I meant 150k (and I was speaking of Edgebrook only — but thanks for the info on the other neighborhood) … That Caldwell house had been on the market so long at the same price — it should have probably been stepped down to the mid-300s (or started there in the first place) by the time it finally sold. It’s like the house on Wildwood with no backyard that was listed at 499 forever — it’s finally come down a couple of times to 419, but even that ship has already sailed now. Of the other homes you mentioned in specific, Tahoma was definitely a major fixer that does have some character–sort of a special circumstance where maybe they were hoping someone would fall in love with the architecture (and location, if you like trains rattling your floors). A couple of the others look like nice homes that were overpriced, but the sellers wisely took the first decent offer that came around. In the latter cases, it doesn’t seem % of LP is a negative … the sellers rolled the dice on a high opening price, but were willing to give when the lowball offers came in. In Edgebrook, it seems to be a balanced market — there’s just a little desperation on both sides: the sellers who really want to sell and the buyers who really want to buy. Would love to hear your perspective on 6784 Keota once it closes — originally listed at 537, finally under contract at 399. That original price was set by someone with $$$ in their eyes. They couldn’t see the home’s dismal condition or the market conditions of the past two years.

    • 6919 Caldwell was actually a short sale, but judging by the mortgage balance, the lender apparently didn’t take too big of a hit, even by selling the property for $165K below asking. Which explains why they agreed to a short sale in the first place, rather than settle for a foreclosure.
      Home sellers in Edgebrook (for the most part) know that they live in a very desirable city neighborhood, for which there is always demand. So even if home sellers in Edgebrook price their homes a little above what the market bears, there will be offers. Case in point, 6585 Tahoma which was on the market only for 64 days.
      6784 Keota is still under contract, as you said JB, hence, I am not going to comment on it, in any form.

      • JB says:

        Re: Caldwell … The listing never appeared to reveal the fact that it was a short sale, so I guess that explains the strange pricing and the information about the loan amount then explains the deep discount the bank accepted. Tahoma was actually on the market as a FSBO for a big chunk of 2008. I believe it was 549 the entire time, but they may have lowered to 525 at the end. It was already vacant then. Sorry to jump the gun on Keota.

        • The function of the “Remarks” section in the MLS used to be to provide the listing broker with a space in which they could expand a bit on property info, beyond your customary 3 BR, 2 BTH, LR, DR etc. Prose, if you will. When MLS info went on the internet some time in the middle of the last decade, the remarks in the MLS remarks section became public info. Many agents, to this day, don’t realize that what they write in that section can be read by the public, because listings get syndicated to Realtor.com, as well as to the Zillows and Trulias of the world, among others. The MLS has another field exclusively reserved where a listing agent could communicate a fact to other MLS participants privately, such as a property being a potential short sale. Some agents though, use the regular remarks section to indicate a potential short sale.
          Tahoma was actually an estate sale, hence the vacancy. The heirs may have simply wanted to get the sale of the house behind them, therefore agreeing to a $75K discount from asking. Makes sense after having been on the market unsuccessfully as a FSBO for a long time. Pure speculation on my part though.


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